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It's one thing if mankind is hunted to extinction by ChatGPT, but I really do object to being executed by Bing.

(https://secretfanspace.dreamwidth.org/2511.html?thread=3169743#cmt3169743 )

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From: (Anonymous)

AO3 is down because of a DDOS attack. Someone tell me what to do with all the free time that just popped up in my life.

From: (Anonymous)

Write an Ao3/DDOS slashfic.

From: (Anonymous)

(apparently ffa is of like mind: https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/601725.html?thread=3688560765#cmt3688560765 )

From: (Anonymous)

LOL at Hogwarts Legacy note. Wow, cowards.

From: (Anonymous)

Yeah, they've had that up since before the game came out. They'll have threads up about ACTUAL WARS, but they can't handle chats about wizard school.

From: (Anonymous)

(that reads like I've gone off the tumblr deep end and I think it's bad to discuss war. But I just mean their priorities are messed up.)

From: (Anonymous)

Dyrt

Yeah no worries I gotchu dan. We know the twans is sacred lmao.

From: (Anonymous)

Nah, we get you, dan.

The histrionics about Evil Cloudfare are a good case in point about their messed-up priorities. How DARE AO3 apparently use them! But, then, I also think that DDOS protections should be as content-agnostic as possible, as if they're not, it's your content someone doesn't like that people will come for next. (FFA: "Cloudflare supported that evil place too long! They're bad!" Me: "Cloudflare knuckled under like cowards. They're untrustworthy.") Hell, I feel that way about most services, like, say, baking. It's like these idiots have forgotten why you can't use PayPal to pay for a DW account.

I remember when being a free speech maximalist was a popular opinion in fandom, and I miss it.

From: (Anonymous)

+++++++ ALL OF THIS

I remember when it was popular in fandom and in tech. We are so fucked. :')

From: (Anonymous)

We are, and I'm not a fan!

From: (Anonymous)

Yeah, it's funny as hell seeing people call Cloudflare evil for supporting the teddy bear bird ranch when I think they're evil for dropping it like a hot potato. Amazing how different our viewpoints can be.

From: (Anonymous)

Also, I missed the histrionics about cloudflare, but that's just fucking *stupid*. A dw community can survive without it; lbr, dw has like 3 users. Ao3 has *millions*.

From: (Anonymous)

Like, it's easy to say "use this tiny provider" when nobody's trying to fuck with you in the first place because they don't even know you exist.

From: (Anonymous)

So mostly what I'm taking from this is that FFA don't know much about tech.

From: (Anonymous)

Even the ones who know tech don't think through the implications of shit. "Our side will always make the rules!" is a terrible way to think about anything.

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From: (Anonymous)

DD

"Show me you're tech illiterate without telling me you're tech illiterate..."

From: (Anonymous)

I also think that DDOS protections should be as content-agnostic as possible, as if they're not, it's your content someone doesn't like that people will come for next.

This dan remembers when LGB content kept getting removed if you didn't warn for slash. I still have no idea why current fandom legitimately thinks, "Yes but my ideas are more right with extra fries and justice!" will ever stop such rules from being exploited against them if they start down the Content Removal Path.

From: (Anonymous)

Hell if I know, but that's where we're at. It doesn't help that the DW people in charge, who are more fair-minded about various things than most of fandom these days, made their own righteous stand against Cloudflare during the sustained campaign against the fruit place, complete with the same inaccurate claims about the site. (I think it's a garbage place. I also think it serves a valuable function in our increasingly sanitized internet and is basically what FFA was five years ago, only broader in scope and without the TRAs.)

From: (Anonymous)

DYRT

It's why I think the original OTW vision needs to be preserved as far as possible, unpopular as it is. I don't know if I'm a full-blooded free speech maximalist. A stint working in a field pertaining to child abuse has made me extremely anti-sharing of child sexual abuse material, but I'll be the first to say that a lot of fic really doesn't meet that bar no matter what fandom screams.

I think it's possible to both agree the farms are a hive of scum and villainy and also think it is necessary for some value of ecosystem necessity.

From: (Anonymous)

ND

I feel that there's a variant of this when people smugly assure themselves that no platforming isn't silencing so it's ok to not be content-agnosticism. Well yes and no. If you go around asking every platform you can to no platform someone, then there's no two ways about it: it's an organised attempt to silence.

It's not the same as IRL silencing but it's clear this is part of the connective tissue of civil society these days.

From: (Anonymous)

Wait what?

From: (Anonymous)

I used it to catch up on some of the otw gossip. I gather that recently they had a big fight with the admin of dreamwidth and then everyone called everyone racist. I'm glad I've already put the work in into investigating ao3 alternatives enough to know there aren't any decent ones, and we're all doomed. :) (Back in the day, I was impressed they let people display images, "wow, they must have such amazing tech and modding that they can even allow images!" But ever since I grew old and lined, I've just wondered why tf they let people post images there, because it's the fiiiiirst thing I would ban in a project of that size and anonymity.)