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A space to chat fandom! Anon!

Got a WIP you're excited about? Want to rave about your fave? Or is your fandom absolutely in love with a character who detracts from every scene they bumble into, and you need somewhere to vent? You're in the right place!

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From: (Anonymous)

ayrt You're the real GOAT, nonny! Dunno why I thought it wouldn't show up in search results. :P

From: (Anonymous)

sa Okay it's making me laugh that this anonmeme has more activity than actual ONTD. Just looking through the last few pages, it's mostly BTS wank, which is boring to me. However, this bit got mentioned twice because it's so good:

maidenhell
June 3rd, 2021, 07:47 pm (local)
I like BTS and I'm getting to know Olivia. There's room for everyone (except Demi Lovato. She sucks).

vintage_boom
June 3rd, 2021, 08:09 pm (local)
Demi goes by they now instead of she. I know they're annoying but, for the sake of other users who choose they/them pronouns, respecting their pronouns is worth the courtesy.

maidenhell
June 3rd, 2021, 08:18 pm (local)
For some reason, I can't edit my comment in this post (but can in others). Thanks for noting. I don't follow her enough to have remembered this.

From: (Anonymous)

Lmaoooo, incredible.

Although this just reminds me, there aren't enough eye-rolls in the world to express how I feel every time I see someone reply to a comment about Demi Lovato (or Courtney Stodden or whoever's recently come out as NB) with something like, "Just so you know, they use they/them pronouns! I know they're annoying, but misgendering is wrong <3" and then the OP is like, "Omg I'm soooo sorry for being offensive and ignorant, editing my post right now!!! Thank you for educating me!!" like...love urself, OP.

From: (Anonymous)

I know people mostly complain about neopronouns now and see they/them as an acceptable compromise, but fuck to that. I've read a few books now (and some fic) with enby characters and it. is. incomprehensible. Especially when there's a group of people and the they/them is in it. "They laughed." Who laughed? Fuck if I know!

From: (Anonymous)

DA

My view on they/them is basically that if we accept the premises that they/them belongs to a specific identity and that misgendering is bad, then we shouldn't be using singular they as a neutral term.

Accepting this use case of they/them is essentially the claim it connects to a specific gender identity. If so, then everytime I refer to someone with they/them without knowing their pronouns, I'm still rolling the misgendering dice.

From: (Anonymous)

Yeah, I think neopronouns are *more* comprehensible in that context. "They" is easy to understand in some contexts but the average full-length story ain't one of them. I thought that was stupid long before I even peaked.