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Westworld

[(Anonymous)]

All things Westworld!

Re: Westworld - Why are there no Ford & Arnold fics

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, why? There are maybe two fics and iirc they're both slash. I don't mind that but I find the intellectual side of their friendship so much more interesting... I know I should write the fic that I want to see in the world, but then... I have to write it! How is this fair? :'(

Re: Westworld

[(Anonymous)]

Saw someone in a radfem space today like 'men like westworld, women like jane austen', ffssssss

Re: Westworld

[(Anonymous)]

SA (again)

I bought multiple books on the philosophy of consciousness so I could do it justice in a fanfic, and still haven't got round to reading them, and now I've forgotten what my fic was going to be about. Also, I thought this book was going to be a collection of short *essays* on different topics, but it's closer to a dictionary:

https://bookshop.org/books/oxford-companion-to-consciousness/9780198712183

So, useful for researching something when reading an essay, as a reference manual, but not much use as a survey of the field, which is what I was after. Probably my own fault for not researching the book thoroughly enough beforehand (maybe the 'companions' are always like this?), but I was so disappointed.

Re: Westworld

[(Anonymous)]

Would this be useful as a survey?

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness/

Also, you're putting way more thought into it than the creators of the show probably did. I applaud you!

Re: Westworld

[(Anonymous)]

:D The first time I watched it I was just bowled over by how they'd approached *code*, I didn't really notice the handwaving. But on a rewatch it was a little more obvious where they were fuzzing things. Though it's still better than most, imo.

I use stanford sometimes; it's great! I wanted a book partly because I find paper cozier and partly because it prevents information-overload, plus that one was curated by someone whose essays I'd liked, so I thought I could trust it. Well, I daresay I can, I just had the wrong expectations. A few years ago, I bought a book of essays on aesthetics for a course, which was in the collection-of-essays format. I confirmed that I hate aesthetics as an academic study, as it happens, and the book was MASSIVE. A few of the essays were fun but it was taking up a lot of room in my house; I left it on a company bookshelf at a past job. Hope someone else got something out of it. But yeah, I thought this was going to be something like that; 100 or so lecturers writing a survey essay of their domain. Nope!

Re: Westworld - A Musical Joke

[(Anonymous)]

So, I downloaded the sheet music for Dr. Ford; I can't really play the piano but that's never stopped me before. =D And something I notice, early on, at a point where the music swells, there's a chord in the left hand that spells 'DAD' and I suspect the key was chosen so that would happen. I'm not the biggest fan of his composition in general but I like that he doesn't seem to be pretentious about keys, and tends to choose whatever is easiest to play. (So if a piece is minor, he'll just use A minor) I wonder if that's encouraged in the industry so that fans can post covers?

The first time I watched Westworld, I totally missed all the father imagery/theming, and on a rewatch it was striking (I'm not sure how I missed it; it's hardly subtle:P). I know partly they're drawing allusions between Ford and a patriarchal God, but also the part of me that likes to psychoanalyse every character likes to interpret it as hinting at his psychological state and motivations. And then I have fun flipping between those interpretations and combining them and deriving various blasphemies. :P

I suppose also, that is the music on a score; the symbolic representation of music as created by people. And in this case, a person encodes a human relationship into the music; the music is their own creation. They can make it say "dad" and it's like the music is talking to them. But it's still just notes on a page. So maybe I should interpret it as the composer playing at being Ford.

Re: Westworld - A Musical Joke

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I'm also curious about the repeating rhythm in the left hand, if it might be morse code or something like that. Or if I'm totally overthinking it.

(I checked and if it is morse, it spells out 'ffs', lmao. I think I should assume that's a coincidence. OR PERHAPS IT IS A REPRESENTATION OF DOLORES.)

Re: Westworld

[(Anonymous)]

(Same old Westworld anon xD)

I also wonder in general with this show, how much of the stuff I really love about it was a complete accident, and a function of the writers making it up as they went along. How much do I love puzzling out because it objectively makes no sense? :P

I have to pretend it ends at the end of season 1, though. I got through s2, but it was dreadful. Though have had some fun playing the "What would you change about s2 to make it good?" game with my partner. I'll probably never watch s3. It's just not the same show.

Re: Westworld - Second season griping

[(Anonymous)]

I watched S2, which was a mistake. I will not be watching s3. Every so often I get mad all over again at how bad it was, and maybe other nonnies would also like to commiserate, so here's a subthread.