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Apr. 8th, 2021 01:55 amA space to chat fandom! Anon!
Got a WIP you're excited about? Want to rave about your fave? Or is your fandom absolutely in love with a character who detracts from every scene they bumble into, and you need somewhere to vent? You're in the right place!
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Got a WIP you're excited about? Want to rave about your fave? Or is your fandom absolutely in love with a character who detracts from every scene they bumble into, and you need somewhere to vent? You're in the right place!
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Re: Every time someone bashes yaoi...
Date: 2021-04-10 10:11 pm (UTC)Have any of you guys read the manga My Lesbian Experience With Loneliness? There's this part where she's trying to figure out sex with a woman, but suddenly realizes that all of the porn she's read has been about the "yaoi hole" - that she kind of hid her fear about sex by reading m/m that had no relation to the real world or real bodies at all. It freaked me out when I read it, because that's pretty much exactly how I got into m/m - when I first read m/m, it grossed me out! I hate penises! But I got into it, and eventually found it hot. Only I realized that it was hot to me as men-who-were-basically-women, written by women. Slash ended up basically being a coping mechanism for me so I didn't have to think about RL sexuality, in a way. I mostly ship f/f now and it feels more natural to me (just wish there was all the fic and porn that m/m got, LOL).
Re: Every time someone bashes yaoi...
Date: 2021-04-10 10:25 pm (UTC)I tend to fantasise about het but I can't tell if that's cultural conditioning or not, since I find men's bodies kind of repulsive visually and prefer to look at women, and I don't feel attracted to anyone. I don't read much f/f but again idk how much of that is conditioning. When I fantasise, I've noticed I put myself in the shoes of one of the women in f/f scenarios whereas I watch f/m scenarios from the outside. I can occasionally make myself fantasise about m/m but it's a struggle. Like, two men, why would I wanna look at that? There's nothing to look at! Whereas I absolutely *know* what kind of dynamics I like, scenario-wise, emotion-wise. So I wonder if I just put men in them because those are the characters who are depicted as having certain emotions and it's hard to imagine a female version that isn't a dorky created-by-a-man implausible kind of thing. And then it's not like fandom is rushing to supply good f/f/. It's interesting seeing how different different people's experiences are.
Re: Every time someone bashes yaoi...
Date: 2021-04-10 11:08 pm (UTC)It's fantastic and brutally honest. I feel like I might get backlash if I recced it in radfem spaces because the author talks about hiring an escort and that's obviously a hot topic.
I feel the same way about dynamics influencing your ships. It's so hard to find what I want in f/f, and genderswap doesn't work for me. Once I started really searching out canons with a ton of female characters, though, it got a bit easier.