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Apr. 8th, 2021 01:55 am
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A space to chat fandom! Anon!

Got a WIP you're excited about? Want to rave about your fave? Or is your fandom absolutely in love with a character who detracts from every scene they bumble into, and you need somewhere to vent? You're in the right place!

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Re: Books - Detransition, Baby

Date: 2021-04-17 12:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
sa Part 5! At this point, Katrina is basically pleading with Reese to be the baby's 2nd mom. It makes no sense for her character, but she's really just a cardboard cut-out for the author to project his fantasy upon. But Reese doesn't want to be 2nd Mom! Reese wants to be 1st Mom, only Mom! He FUCKING HATES WOMEN:

Reese rolls her eyes. Cis women are always complaining about the burden of their reproductive ability, while secretly cherishing it. Hysterectomies are widely available, but even women who don’t want children aren’t exactly lining up to get them.

Katrina and Reese go baby shopping and Reese is the one assumed to be pregnant. LMAOOOOO r/thathappened. They put matching breast pumps on the register because OFC Reese is going to breastfeed. He's actually got a pump already that he uses for mommy!kink sex, what the FUCK. He (and Amy/Ames) are both really, really into mommy!kink:

Sometimes, Reese wants to talk with Katrina about the eroticism of motherhood. Even this store. Look at it! A sanctum of femaleness, of private domestic acts. Maternity clothes to cover a changing body. Photos and products designed to encourage touch, nurturing, care. Everything packaged in the same soft, pale pastel colors women choose for lingerie when the male gaze is subtracted from the equation. The ghost scent of baby powder dusting the space. Queers—hell, even straight people—had all begun to call each other “daddy” in bed, but for Reese, there had never been a word more taboo, more soft, more intimate than “mommy.” If masculine displays of overt horniness have always been more celebrated than their feminine counterparts, the mommy vs. daddy dirty-talk dichotomy only heightens that disparity.

Katrina buys a book about lesbian "second" moms for her mom and Reese to read, but Reese is offended because EW lesbians are exclusionary:

She couldn’t quite fake politeness through her vague dismay at yet another suggestion that her own journey into queer parenting must begin with advice from the cis lesbians who disdained her motherhood. Why, whenever she proclaimed her desire for motherhood, did people point her to a political movement that had banked thirty years making it clear that it didn’t want her around?

I cannot emphasize enough how SHITTY of a person Reese is. Katrina is willing to co-mother her child with a complete stranger, but all Reese can do is complain:

And this is Reese’s whole complaint. That in the end, when it comes to final say in how the baby will be raised, Katrina, the natal mom, will have that last word. Second-place mom, Reese, would be allowed suggestions only.
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Re: Books - Detransition, Baby

Date: 2021-04-17 12:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lol, thathappened indeed!

> Everything packaged in the same soft, pale pastel colors women choose for lingerie when the male gaze is subtracted from the equation.

That's your male gaze, right there. Also fuck off.

> If masculine displays of overt horniness have always been more celebrated than their feminine counterparts, the mommy vs. daddy dirty-talk dichotomy only heightens that disparity.

You fight that sexism, you! But also, what a confused idea. Among people who like that shit, the person saying 'daddy' tends to be characterised as feminine. People normally think of some creepy guy soliciting a dominatrix when they think of someone using 'mommy' in a sexual context. Sounds like a 'masculine display of overt horniness' to me. So the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.

> Why, whenever she proclaimed her desire for motherhood, did people point her to a political movement that had banked thirty years making it clear that it didn’t want her around?

Because 1) that desire is nuts and based on your fetish, and 2) they're hoping you get the message, would be my guess.

And yes, how very dare the woman who actually gives birth to the child have more of a say than the random unrelated guy that's hanging around hating women and getting hard when he sees maternity-wear. Truly, a scandal.
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Re: Books - Detransition, Baby

Date: 2021-04-17 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Bf's comments:

"How can he not see how much of a woman he isn't, from this scene alone? Here's a shop set up to offer women practical things for a practical purpose, and all he can do is wank. The women are just trying to get on with their lives, but there he is, in the way, wanking in their general direction."

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