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Re: Random Internet Things

Date: 2022-09-04 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ayrt

That's why I said I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater - I specifically had this in mind. But I also think the premise itself has led to a diversity in name but not in practice, and it's also pretty annoying in some ways, e.g. yellow friend consistently gets pigeonholed in publishing to write 'the Asian perspective' when he really doesn't have any special perspective (in his opinion) and it's not especially representative of anything.

Having more books with more perspective is good! But having pigeonholes where the only thing you're wanted or good for is the Yellow Person Perspective (rather than equally interesting stories you might want to tell), or where it leads to authors more or less checking off a checklist with a palette swap - that's not good and that sort of turns diversity talk into dead checkboxes on all levels.

But also, here, I do wonder about the reflect reality premise - like, I don't really care if some types of characters are unrealistic. If they're interesting to explore, if they're like psychological thought experiments, I want to see them anyway. I don't really *care* about art needing some sacred burden of capturing reality. I want art to be art, and I want the publishing and communal gatekeeping to be less insane about it.
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Re: Random Internet Things

Date: 2022-09-04 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
> But also, here, I do wonder about the reflect reality premise - like, I don't really care if some types of characters are unrealistic. If they're interesting to explore, if they're like psychological thought experiments, I want to see them anyway. I don't really *care* about art needing some sacred burden of capturing reality. I want art to be art, and I want the publishing and communal gatekeeping to be less insane about it.

Oh yeah, I'm saying what I like in fiction, I'm not saying this is the only fiction that should exist, we agree.

And yeah on the rest, I've long considered taking a white male pseud if I publish anything just to avoid the patronising praise that comes with having an unpronounceable name.
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Re: Random Internet Things

Date: 2022-09-04 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
> Oh yeah, I'm saying what I like in fiction, I'm not saying this is the only fiction that should exist, we agree.

Yeah, dwai, same here - was more trying to fumble my way around to why that premise as it exists / drives the current publishing/fandom circles doesn't rest well with me.

> And yeah on the rest, I've long considered taking a white male pseud if I publish anything just to avoid the patronising praise that comes with having an unpronounceable name.

With you on this.

Publish something faintly GC and then watch TRAs frantically Google to prove you picked a pseud that did something Totally Bloody Awful centuries ago!
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Re: Random Internet Things

Date: 2022-09-04 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
> And yeah on the rest, I've long considered taking a white male pseud if I publish anything just to avoid the patronising praise that comes with having an unpronounceable name.

I'd definitely have a pseud, but I'd probably try to pick something that represents my background but is more westernized/easier for Americans to pronounce. Given the genres I'm interested in, being male might actually be a liability.
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Re: Random Internet Things

Date: 2022-09-05 01:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
DA

> I'd definitely have a pseud, but I'd probably try to pick something that represents my background but is more westernized/easier for Americans to pronounce. Given the genres I'm interested in, being male might actually be a liability.

Oh, that's definitely interesting...

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