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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-03 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
spoilers through chapter 30:

Well, we've gotten around to leftist fans being toxic, with the Pen of Justice blog. The name's a little too on the nose. And ... I'm still struggling with suspension of disbelief, centered around the nature of the fake cartoon. What actual genre is it? What sort of people are attracted to it? Is it full of South Park-esqe edgy humor? Or are parts of it more heartfelt? Why is it popular with idiot sexist alt-right assholes, overly literal art-deaf wokescolds, and the general public via netflix? Why are people going off getting tattoos of it all over their body? The glimpses of fan culture are faithful enough but they're not cohesive because it doesn't make sense that all these different subcultures are fans together without being at each other's throats or (more realistically) dropping the show and moving onto different canons to separate themselves from one another.

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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-04 05:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
DA

Tbf I think this is fandom as the woke left sees it and as the media likes to present it.

Because this situation you're describing is basically IMO the public representation/claim of what the Star Wars fandom is like - idiot sexist alt-right assholes (see: 'fandom menace') because disliking Rey immediately makes you an idiot sexist alt-right asshole, overally literal art-deaf wokescolds flooded in after Rian Johnson's TLJ and in reaction to their perception of idiot sexist alt-right assholes, I think Filoni's TCW and the Disney movies introduced the general public, and so on. All we need is the Reylos for things to be complete.

You're right about moving on to different canons but the situation I'm seeing is that a lot of people stay on and hate watch in the hopes that eventually it will be their Star Wars, for whatever value of 'their' they deem suitable.
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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-04 06:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
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I read an article speculating the fandom was at least partly based off Rick & Morty. I'm not familiar enough with that show to know what kind of fans it has, though.

I'm not as far into the book yet, but the description of it from Robin as a "stoner's macabre fantasy" does sound like the kind of thing that would attract both edgelord male viewers and artsy lefty e-girls.
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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-04 07:14 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
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Although yeah, thinking about it further, it would be unusual for the two types of fans to mix on the same platform, which is what seems to be happening w/ the game in the book? If not moving on to other fandoms entirely, usually they'd at least split off so they wouldn't have to deal with each other, like the Tumblr/Reddit schism in a lot of fandoms.
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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-04 10:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
One minor annoyance is that the Ink Black Heart show itself isn't shown to ever be more than a bunch of disparate anthropomorphized death-themed creatures hanging around in a graveyard (and not that interesting of a premise, to be honest).
The only thing the fandom seems to do is say one of two catchphrases and gush about the characters.
I don't know how you'd build a fandom out of that, it just seems oddly empty.
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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-04 11:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I feel that the one thing a fandom needs most is at least three characters with chemistry or two ships.

So that people not only write fic or make fanart but squabble about who is shipped with whom...
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Re: BOOKS - Ink Black Heart 🖤

Date: 2022-09-04 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Rick&Morty? Hmm, I could see that comparison.

Honestly the depiction in the book reminds me more of fandom in the aughts than in the teens. LJ, forums, etc -- you gather around some canon but you actually spend 80% of the time talking vague personal stuff. Ha, it brings back memories of this teenage guy I knew traveling to Australia to meet a artist he was keen on and then being crushed when it turned out she had a boyfriend and also spent the entire time ignoring him in favor of online gaming. That sort of vibe, where you cross lines into namespace more. Now, does it mesh with call-out campaigns on twitter? I don't know, that seems like a later, less localized fandom era.

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